tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.comments2023-08-02T04:20:12.609-06:00the sagely blogAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09294950067610494194noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-56243038253067252912012-12-04T19:16:20.008-07:002012-12-04T19:16:20.008-07:00Good stuff man! Minor distinction at first glance,...Good stuff man! Minor distinction at first glance, but massive ramifications. I appreciate your thoughts. Praying tonight you become that kind of pastor across the course of life!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-89890638741778847332012-07-11T10:14:29.154-06:002012-07-11T10:14:29.154-06:00I've only every read selections from Volf'...I've only every read selections from Volf's Exclusion and Embrace for a great seminary class. I should track this one down.<br /><br />I also stumbled on a book called, fittingly enough, The Biblical Foundations for Mission by Donald Senior and Carroll Stuhlmueller, put out by Orbis. The first section on mission in Hebrew Scripture is pretty poor, but the second on the NT is fairly decent--at least as far as it deals with mission in Colossians.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09294950067610494194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-41221083769331820092012-07-11T10:06:14.761-06:002012-07-11T10:06:14.761-06:00I'm in the middle of reading Miroslav Volf'...I'm in the middle of reading Miroslav Volf's A Public Faith: How Followers of Christ Should Serve the Common Good. While academically broad, the ideas correlate with the concept of mission well.<br /><br />DanAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947097413815494823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-63615556186725413092012-07-03T00:23:52.333-06:002012-07-03T00:23:52.333-06:00Good words. Simple and beautiful, doing what chur...Good words. Simple and beautiful, doing what church should do: reminding us of the awesome story we live in. I needed that reminder today, so thanks. :) I feel solid ground under my feet tonight.Laura W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04361250697594936298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-21985423709965513502012-06-10T11:59:29.368-06:002012-06-10T11:59:29.368-06:00Josh, I studied with Webber at Wheaton College Gra...Josh, I studied with Webber at Wheaton College Graduate School and as often happened when you studied with Bob you eventually became a friend. He had the gift of encouragement. After graduation I was going through some old journals and found that about ten years before I had immersed myself in Common Roots (the 1978 precursor of Ancient-Future Faith). I discovered that many of the things that I thought I had arrived at independently in my faith formation were actually revisions of things I had first learned from Bob's earlier book. It was a humbling thing (I don't have as many original thoughts as I thought I did!) and a wonderfully celebratory thing that Bob had used his gifts in such an edifying way throughout his teaching and writer career. I was never really impressed with Bob as a scholar, but he was a phenomenal teacher, an intuitive about what the church needed, and a friend and mentor. I'm glad for your post reminding me of that. -- Ric HRic Hudgenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08609806334700549224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-86397147659080469882012-05-09T09:02:38.791-06:002012-05-09T09:02:38.791-06:00I got a lot of good feedback on the series, but I ...I got a lot of good feedback on the series, but I have yet to hear reports of actual conversations. I'm hoping and praying that people will talk about concrete ways we can demonstrate the kingdom. It is easy, though, for us to hear "demonstrate the kingdom" as "invite friends to Sunday morning worship" rather than as "go and do what Jesus did."<br /><br />I'll keep you updated.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09294950067610494194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-82444342621168376352012-05-08T05:54:38.734-06:002012-05-08T05:54:38.734-06:00Love reading the sermons. Did it start many conve...Love reading the sermons. Did it start many conversations at your church?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-21691963103271308632012-01-07T16:57:19.700-07:002012-01-07T16:57:19.700-07:00Just reviewed this book on my own blog and was loo...Just reviewed this book on my own blog and was looking over the blogosphere to see who else had read it. Loved your review!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-36882308711766568012012-01-03T16:54:23.352-07:002012-01-03T16:54:23.352-07:00Crazy, I had a similarly shaking experience with a...Crazy, I had a similarly shaking experience with an Orthodox grad student on an Open Heirs trip to Columbus. We were sitting on stools along the counter in this little diner and he was chuckling at me. He knew I wouldn't think he was Christian, but it didn't bother him. He kept talking about Love. It was very strange to me, who knew then that he was evangelizing me? :)Laura W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04361250697594936298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-24625846436102102202011-11-30T12:37:54.537-07:002011-11-30T12:37:54.537-07:00Good thoughts! What would I do? And why am I not d...Good thoughts! What would I do? And why am I not doing it now?Hannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05931352530362931826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-50510862297211635252011-11-29T14:12:24.804-07:002011-11-29T14:12:24.804-07:00Thanks for this thoughtful post, Josh.
This may s...Thanks for this thoughtful post, Josh.<br /><br />This may seem unrelated, but I see reality wearing through the map in Lucy's smiles. It's a special blessing that she tends to smile during the tasks when I need a little encouragement... changing a diaper, just before she falls asleep (when I've been desperately trying to get her there for a while).<br /><br />To get all culture-critical about it: I just finished the Hunger Games series and I was struck by how having children is the "happy ending" in all three of the blockbuster stories of the past few years (Harry Potter, Twilight, the aforementioned Hunger Games). Significant? Just interesting to me. It doesn't seem like the way stories ended a generation ago...Laura W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04361250697594936298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-17108787980634608262011-11-11T15:31:09.366-07:002011-11-11T15:31:09.366-07:00Me gusta. So what's that look like here? How...Me gusta. So what's that look like here? How does one begin this long process in this story?<br /><br />And almost as important... is there a way to "intercept" the other Christian during this process, or follow-up in a more helpful way afterward, either with the Christian or with the people the Christian was interrogating?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-66858639656289762762011-08-29T05:10:36.475-06:002011-08-29T05:10:36.475-06:00Thanks for keeping this online, i really need this...Thanks for keeping this online, i really need this info for my case study!<br /> <a href="http://www.sampleletters.in/resignation-letter-formats.html/" rel="nofollow">Resignation letter format</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-11914451151999579362011-02-05T14:16:17.957-07:002011-02-05T14:16:17.957-07:00Laura, thanks for the comment. I agree that there ...Laura, thanks for the comment. I agree that there is little to recommend one cultural context as necessarily better than all others (thought, conversely, I do believe some cultural contexts may in fact be <i>worse</i> than others). Honestly, I'm not quite as anarcho-primitivist as Andy's articles go.<br /><br />I do, however, strongly believe that socio-cultural context deeply shapes the way in which understand church, often in ways broader than we realize. This is especially true of our material context. In this light, I think the 2nd installment (part 2) is the most enlightening. The contrast between patron ecclesiology and apartment ecclesiology in a 2nd to 3rd century context has striking implications about the way our material context shapes our ecclesiology today. I think you get at this when you say "we must discern what it means to be a Christian HERE"--just include material context in that "HERE."<br /><br />I can see the effects of material context in the way my congregation here in Chicago understands itself in comparison with how the house churches in MK understand themselves. I think Charles Taylor might label it a "social imaginary." The unspoken grasp of what is possible, acceptable, and normal is radically altered by widespread dependence on cars (even in our hippie community here in Chicago). Time suddenly <i>feels</i> different. I think this (along with many other things) works its way all the way down to our ecclesiology.<br /><br />I'm not sure that the effects of material context are uniform within a given tradition. I imagine worship in an Anglican congregation in Vancouver may feel different from worship in NYC even if all the words are the same. I think the same is true in the Mennonite church. I think it's less about imitating empire and more about how empire gets inside us through our material surroundings.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09294950067610494194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-13768920427202015582011-02-05T12:41:40.920-07:002011-02-05T12:41:40.920-07:00Thanks for this great review, Josh! (And congrats ...Thanks for this great review, Josh! (And congrats on finishing coursework!) Cindy recommended this book to me around New Years and I'm still working through it. It feels like such a testimony of Midwestern heritage to me: wisdom from the honest life our American forebears led in the face of harsh circumstances. You pointed out some of my favorite passages too!Laura W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04361250697594936298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-91954752548279219902010-12-18T14:28:15.393-07:002010-12-18T14:28:15.393-07:00Thanks for posting these thoughtful articles, Josh...Thanks for posting these thoughtful articles, Josh. They are challenging, but I struggle with the presupposition that Christians borrowing from some cultures (nature-worshiping Celtic Druids) is automatically better than borrowing from others (property-owning Graeco-Romans). The trouble is, we are in the culture we are in and we must discern what it means to be a Christian HERE. That means drawing on examples like the Celts that challenge our cultural presuppositions about extravagant church properties, but also finding the figures within our own Western history that have challenged the church from within (my favorite mystics and monastics). Though we Americans are much less likely to sympathize with those who "compromise" to stay within a church constantly in need of reformation, we actually have much more in common with them in many ways. I think that's the fundamental historical reason why I've chosen Anglicanism over other Reformation churches. Though Heaven knows we have our issues about Empire, wealth, property and doctrine! Would love to hear your responses to the articles.Laura W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04361250697594936298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-76294488457004269182010-09-19T19:05:32.568-06:002010-09-19T19:05:32.568-06:00I have been attempting to chant the Psalms sometim...I have been attempting to chant the Psalms sometimes. I visited a monastery and heard the monks chant once, but really I have no idea what I'm doing. Whatever it is though, it's powerful.Laura W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04361250697594936298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-51779373079259363682010-08-03T11:57:04.942-06:002010-08-03T11:57:04.942-06:00These are deep, perceptive comments! I'm real...These are deep, perceptive comments! I'm really with you on your insights into the real, Biblical sense of apocalypse instead of all this end of the world stuff. I'm excited now to take some time to read these books which have been on my "to read" shelf for a while.Laura W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04361250697594936298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-65490116636561471832010-06-22T08:23:53.447-06:002010-06-22T08:23:53.447-06:00Josh,
That sounds like a great book and I would ...Josh, <br /><br />That sounds like a great book and I would love to borrow it when there is a chance. I wonder, do you think it's a bit idealistic? I thought about this subject quite a bit while at Cedarville, as my attempts to live out quality cross-sex friendships didn't always pan out that way.<br /><br />Maybe hormones were the problem, maybe the cedar-culture marriage machine was the problem, maybe something else entirely. But I always wished that it was possible.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01377526830577441137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-41261876211838222342010-06-21T12:43:21.760-06:002010-06-21T12:43:21.760-06:00Love the connection between the cross-sex friendsh...Love the connection between the cross-sex friendship conversation and CSA. Might have to write a post on that one. Good stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-56514706659760124052010-06-19T07:26:29.947-06:002010-06-19T07:26:29.947-06:00Josh,
I am deeply blessed by your review of SUSP!...Josh,<br /><br />I am deeply blessed by your review of SUSP! You not only "review" the book, you clearly engage it. I appreciated your highlighting the theme of relational beauty and cross-sex friendship in SUSP.<br /><br />I thought your two critical points were fair and good challenges. Thank you for such an engaging review!Dan Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12991307679378764620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-27087315801289216442010-05-04T13:23:41.056-06:002010-05-04T13:23:41.056-06:00Yay! Thanks for sharing this review! Another fri...Yay! Thanks for sharing this review! Another friend recently recommended this book so now its on my list. And I haven't read Love in the Ruins, but I LOVED Percy's The Moviegoer, and you remind me that I need to read more of his stuff, too. I miss you guys!Laura W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04361250697594936298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-26679274612380529972010-04-21T14:30:35.753-06:002010-04-21T14:30:35.753-06:00It is a great book and well worth the purchase pri...It is a great book and well worth the purchase price. If you want to read excerpts and have discussion, we do have a Facebook group for the book:<br /><br />http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=322343761902<br /><br />Peace,<br />Jamie<br />www.missional.caJamiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16669647390550990757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-84814768504105756572010-04-16T10:41:56.354-06:002010-04-16T10:41:56.354-06:00Thanks for submitting your blog to be included on ...Thanks for submitting your blog to be included on Trinity Library's TIU blog page. Welcome to the conversation.<br /><br />Matt Ostercamp<br />TIU Library<br /><br />http://rolfing.tiu.edu/tiublogsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13449623942835171280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-81661960328131610.post-86577058016222702572009-11-02T17:11:37.271-07:002009-11-02T17:11:37.271-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com